South Belfast: Hustings

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Rodney McCune (UUP), Claire Bailey (Green), Duncan Morrow (Alliance) Claire Hanna (SDLP), Ruth Patterson (Ind Unionist) and Christopher Stalford (DUP)

After introducing the panel, William Crawley asks the first question. DOES THIS CONSTITUENCY NEED MORE MIGRANTS
Rodney McCune talked about Balance , the duty to Asylum Seekers, free movement within EU and the folks from outside Europe who we may need because of skills.
CLaire Hanna said Migrants into Norn Iron were a net benefit and the other side of migration was people leaving Norn Iron. Duncan Morrow said we should be more forward looking and condemned the Commons vote which banned 3,000 unaccompanied child migrants.
Christopher Stalford paid tribute to the positive contribution of migrants but said that people are badly homed. There needs to be better integration and condemned Hate Crime.
Ruth Patterson echoed this. As a nurse she valued the contribution of migrant workers but mentioned “economic” migrants.

CORPORATION TAX?
Christopher Stalford …is for cutting it and expanding the private sector. He noted for all the bluster Sinn Féin was happy to be a party in a Centre-Right coalition. Possibly the best line of the night.
CLaire Baileyis opposed to reduction.
CLaire Hanna suggested we could have missed the zeitgest. Entrepeaneurs want skills and infrastructure.
Duncan Morrow said we need innovation, skills and infrastructure…and we cant leave EU
Rodney McCune warned any reduction in Corporation Tax would be wiped out by Brexit.
Christopher Stalford noted that when Britain joined EU, the then Common Market accounted for around 30% of worlds economy. Now it is 17%. The Brexit Debate is marked by the fact that none of the leading Remain or Leave advocates (George Osborne and Boris Johnson have been convincing.
Ruth Patterso advocated leaving.
Duncan Morrow stressed NI is a net beneficiary from EU but challenged by William Cawley to put a figure on it. Claire Hanna rescued him
Rodney McCune said that the weakest argument for leaving EU is economic.

WATER CHARGES?
Ruth Patterson is against it on the grounds that GOD provides the rain.
Claire Hanna noted we already pay charges and was against further charges. We need to be innovative and mutualisation was maybe an answer.
Claire Bailey was somewhat evasive. It could be an income generator but she was in favour of generous “free”
Duncan Morrow, representing Alliance who advocate water charges was perhaps not grilled enough. He was evasive
Mr McCune was against …no more charges
Christopher Stalford spoke of the effect on pensioners….many in South Belfast are asset rich.
Much of the rest of the session covered social issues such as Gay Blood Ban, Same Sex Marriage and Abortion Law Reform.
To some extent, the Gay Rights argument is already won. Progressives such as Claire Hanna, Claire Bailey, Duncan Morrow and Rodney McCune (Im not sure if Ruth specifically addressed the issue) had no difficulty in condemning the ban on gay blood.
Christopher Stalford claimed the ban was Science-based and would have no difficulty if the Science said it was safe. The audience were not happy.
As for Same Sex Marriage…no problem for SDLP (its in the Manifesto) and Claire Hanna has a good record in Assembly. Likewise Morrow, Bailey, McCune and (I think Patterson).
Again Christopher Stalford drew the ire of the youngish, progressive audience.
Abortion is of course the most emotive of the subjects.
To some extent this is Claire Bailey’s unique selling point but she was surprisingly low key, merely mentioning the “tens of thousands” who have gone to England for abortions and that this discriminated against poorer women.
Ruth Patterson favoured extension of the 1967 Abortion legislation. It was the pragmatic approach. Safer option than unsupervised access to pills on the Internet.
Claire Hanna (SDLP is pro-life) admitted to being conflicted about the least worst option. She hinted at a Referendum being a good idea.
Duncan Morrow said we needed a 2016 Act rather than a 1967 Act. It sounded like a prepared soundbite rather than a policy.
Rodney McCune, a lawyer warned that legislation would be difficult.
Christopher Stalford thought that there was no appetite for extending the 1967 Act. It was not just DUP …SDLP are pro-life as well as many in the UUP and Alliance. There have been 8 million abortions in Britain since the introduction of the 1967 Act.
To some extent, the audience, hostile to Christophers position facilitated the other panelists. It is a difficult issue for everyone….except it seemed the majority of the audiennce. Childishly there was a point made that “how can you represent South Belfast and hold these opinions?” and it was easily brushed aside…Christopher Stalford is seeking a mandate for his views and several people hold them.

There was however one sour note. I am reluctant to mention it but I think in the interest of disclosure it has to be mentioned.
A man in the audience identified himself as an Alliance voter for forty years and openly stated that a member of the SDLP (not Claire) was “sectarian”. To be fair William Crawley said that the individual was not present and could not defend himself against the accusation.
The audience member persisted in trying to make this point and a rather unseemly incident occurred.
I mention it for two reasons….a “holier than thou” attitude among SOME Alliance voters and members that voting Alliance is the only true test of non-sectarianism or anti-sectarianism.
And the second reason that I mention it is that it genuinely shocked the panel . And more so, it was Christopher Stalford who was initiated the defence of the SDLP person…noting that he was a decent person and good public representative. In eleven years in Council, most of the work is done by co-operation.Duncan Morrow also emphasised that having a “constitutional preference” is NOT sectarian
All in all, it was a good night spoiled by one incident.

Judging the panelists (except Claire Hanna of course)
Rodney McCune UUP 6/10….competent rather than brilliant.
Claire Bailey Green 5/10….strangely subdued as she was in front of an audience, where if a poll was taken, she would win.
Duncan Morrow Alliance 5/10….possibly harsh. But at times he appeared new at being a politician but he compensated with sincerity. There is a safe Alliance seat in South Belfast and I hope he takes it.
Ruth Patterson (Ind Unionist) 6/10…surprisingly liberal sentiments expressed at times. As she said herself in reply to a light-hearted final question , her greatest mistake was that the general public have the wrong image of her.
Christopher Stalford (DUP) 8/10….needless to say that I dont agree with a lot of what he said. But he defended his own position well and without fear (even some humour) in a room that was hostile. There is a safe DUP seat in South Belfast. He has done the groundwork…four elections, three wins, eleven years on council. He deserves the DUP seat.

WIlliam Cawley handled the unpleasant situation well. The questions…he initiated some but the audience initiated most. He did certainly give too much microphone time to some individuals. But curious that in South Belfast…home of the City Hospital, Musgrave Park Hospital and Knockbracken Health Service complex, he did not ask a question on Health.

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South Belfast Hustings: The Undercard.

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A pretty full house at Agapé Centre (South Belfast Methodist Centre) for South Belfast hustings.
Two panels.
An undercard…Sean Burns (some kinda Labour) Bob Stoker ((UKIP), Lily Kerr (Workers Party), Brigitte Anton (Labour in NI) Ben Manton (Conservative) and Billy Dickson (Ind Unionist)
Notables in audience….Alex Kane, Bill White (Lucid Talk), Jamie Bryson, David McCann (from Slugger O’Toole). Quintin Oliver showed up near the end so presumably his Stratagem minions were in the room.

William Cawley…BBC serial LetsGetAlongerist in the chair…or rather on his feet….
The Undercard have been allocated 45 minutes. The main players have been allocated 75 minutes.
Looking round the full room, I saw few recognisable rank and file from the main parties. This looks to be a night when the folks from smaller parties and their supporters will take centre stage.

First Question….Crawley asked
WHAT WOULD YOU MOST LIKE TO CHANGE?
For Bob Stoker, it was about making things easier. Ms Anton wanted Politics to open up more (she mentioned a Civic Forum…. as the unelectable always do) Billy Dickson said two parties DUP and SF control everything. For Tory Boy Manton, it was about a strong private sector….rates cut etc
For Lily Kerr, Workers Party veteran, Stormont was not fit for purpose and she wanted Left-Right politics.
For Sean Burns it was an end to “dinosaur politics”. It was all about LGBT Rights and Same Sex Marriage and the extension of the 1967 Abortion Act to Norn Iron.

The first two questions were on Renewable Energy and Water Safety and not surprisingly everybody is in favour of Renewable Energy and nobody is against it. LIkewise everybody prefers safe water to unsafe water.
On Equal Marriage, only Mr Dickson was against it.
Questions were asked on the eighteen years since the Good Friday Agreement.
The consensus was that we had wasted the time since.

SHOULD EDUCATION (AT THIRD LEVEL) BE FREE?
While four members agreed with the premise, Bob Stoker said it should be free for “stem subjects”. Predictably the Tory thought that many 18 year olds did not get to go to Uni and it was unfair that they pay tax to subsidise those lucky enough to get to University. An audience member reminded Mr Manton that in a previous answer he had said this generation was shackling its children and grandchildren with debt and he was advocating shackling students with debt.

On the age of Voting, five panelists favoured reducing the voting age to sixteen. But the Torys curious response was “yes…in time”. He went on weakly to explain that there should be more education on how Politics works at school.
There was some discussion about cuts to benefit. Bob Stoker was particuarly effective on the issue, noting the savage sanctions imposed on some claimants.

Overall impressions. Lily Kerr did well in a 1950s Socialist kinda way. Some good one liners. Ms Anton and her LabourNI are a luxury item. As is Sean Burns and his Labour lot. More left wing show-boating about uniting leftists by forming yet another left-leaning Party.
BIlly Dickson seemed like a decent mainstream unionist, who doesnt seem to fit with Mike Nesbits UUP.
Bob Stoker is a patently decent man in an awful Party (UKIP).
And Ben Manton is a Tory…..nuff said.

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Don’t Buy “The Sun”

I suppose most people who read this blog are far too sophisticated to buy “The Sun” newspaper. It is a gutter rag, stable companion of “News Of The World” which was so implicated in the phone hacking scandal, it was shamed out of existence.
“The Sun” is of course owned by Rupert Murdoch. Among other things it advocates leaving the European Union because foreigners have too much influence over Britain’s affairs. Rupert Murdoch is an Australian-born American citizen. And he has quite a lot of influence over British affairs…thru The Sun and The Times and Sky News.
In the aftermath of the Hillsborough tragedy, The Sun infamously ran a front-page story. It claimed fans of Liverpool had urinated on police officers and had pick-pocketed the dead and dying. It was of course a BIG LIE, planted by South Yorkshire police who wanted to deflct the blame to the fans. As a consequence, The Sun newspaper became toxic on Merseyside.
Yesterday we had the spectacle of former editor, Kelvin McKenzie being door-stepped by journalists. He looked uncomfortable. He tells us he is glad for the families. And yet he seeks to portray himself as a victim. He was fooled by an agency report and he published it. Is it not the responsibility of a journalist to check a source? Is it not unforgivable to publish such a tacky piece bound to cause offence to grieving families?
The Big Story yesterday was Hillsborough. There will be few bigger stories in 2016, than the finding that ninety six football fans were unlawfully killed and that for twenty seven years there has been a cover up. It is a scandal. It is bigger than any celebrity death.
Yet neither The Sun or The Times (allegedly a paper of record) carry Hillsborough on their front pages today. The Times has since apologised and corrected later editions. It is hard to escape the conclusion that the Murdoch newspapers could not bring themselves to face up to The Sun’s disgraceful conduct more than two decades ago. All Editors must make a judgement as to the “news value” of a story but hard to believe that the decision not to run front page stories was anything to do with journalistic ethics. It looks like the Editors had been in conversation with the proprietor or at least thought they were doing his bidding.
Or maybe there is no such thing as journalistic ethics?
Of course, twenty seven years ago, The Sun “only” offended the people of Merseyside. The boycott of The Scum (sic) was and is localised.
But clearly, the 2016 offence is more grave. Newspapers have a duty to report the news. It is not good enough to ignore one of the major stories of the year to save embarrassment, to pursue a vendetta or to follow the whim of a man with the ethics of C Montgomery Burns.
Of course, human nature is fickle. The Sun will seek to ride out the storm, issue a muted apology and offer some give-aways (cheap air flights and holidays) to counter public ridicule.
Yet…consumers are not the only ones with some power here. A start could be made by Liverpool Football Club banning The Sun from its press conferences. A move that could be followed by Everton FC (fellow Merseysiders) and the rest of the big northern teams.
Pressure can be brought on advertisers of course. But other people have power, notably a stance by the British Labour Party to ban Sun reporters from briefings would shame the Tory Party into doing the same.
The alternative is temporary anger ….and ridicule in other media and a reference to it on “Have I Got News For You”….and …then Business as Usual.
And that would not be good enough.

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To be clear. I do not support Liverpool Football Club. I am old enough to remember them in the old Second Division. They got promoted around 1962 and were an instant “hit”, bringing a breath of what they believed was fresh air to the First Division. In part it was due to the rise of Liverpool …the city…as a cultural icon….The Beatles, Cilla Black, Gerry and the Pacemakers and Jimmy Tarbuck.

In part it was due to the charismatic personality of their manager, Bill Shankly. He had a way with one-liners….going back to the times when the Liverpool directors went to lowly Huddersfield Town to offer him the “best job in football”. Shankly simply replied “has Matt Busby resigned from Manchester United?”

The Media was kind to Liverpool FC. Their fans swayed (in black and white) on the Kop terracing singing “She Loves You , Yeah Yeah Yeah” and later “You’ll Never Walk Alone”, made famous in the 1960s by Gerry and the Pacemakers but actually the anthem of another club (was it Birmingham City?).

At a time of football hooliganism being rampant, Liverpool FC styled themselves and sang “the best behaved supporters in the world”. True enough…but my sister a young fan saw a fan of Crystal Palace beaten up outside Anfield. It sickened her…the language the fans used was racially abusive.

Of course the cities of Liverpool and Manchester have long standing rivalries that go beyond Football. And for visits to and from Manchester United, Liverpool fans had an unpleasant song about the Munich Air Crash in 1958. A certain irony in that because on the day of the disaster only two clubs telephoned Old Trafford offering help….Nottingham Forest and Liverpool. Shamefully, in recent years Manchester United fans have found a response in the “Hillsborough Song”.

And on the football field rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United continued. In the 1960s United had the best of it. Then Manchester United went from 1967 to 1993 without winning the Championship and ironically Liverpool have now equalled that losing streak (1990-2016 at least).

I like the city of Manchester. I like the city of Liverpool. Two decent places. At times the whole Liverpool “fab”, “gear”, chirpy Scouser self-image irritates me. And there is a darker side…the Heysel Stadium in Brussels where in a match between Liverpool and Juventus, around thirty Juventus fans died as a consequence of hooliganism. Liverpool fans aided by the media absolved themselves of any blame. Curiously the Heysel Tragedy has been deleted from Liverpool and British memory. The thirty dead were…after all….foreigners.

That was just two years before Hillsborough in 1989….ninety six Liverpool fans died. To those of us who watched it unfold on TV, it was unforgettable. Was it crushing? Hooliganism? As Saturday became Sunday, the official briefing blamed Liverpool fans and a compliant media spread the lie.

To those of us who live in Norn Iron, it is a familiar enough lie. It took decades for the Bloody Sunday and McGurks Bar families to get a form of Justice and the Ballymurphy families still wait.

Let us be clear. The Truth about Hillsborough has been known for decades. Today’s inquest verdict that the fans were “unlawfully killed” merely makes it official. While the tenacity of the bereaved families is to be applauded and the media will happily go with the new narrative….police, successive governments and the media need to be criticised.

The Sun…the newspaper who most enthusiastically went with the hooligan narrative is repulsive. They published lies…that the wallets of the dead and dying were stolen by other Liverpool fans. They will seek to portray themselves as fellow victims…that they dutifully believed the police briefings at the time.

Yet Justice Delayed is Justice Denied. We should not kid ourselves that the unlawful killing verdict will lead to prosecutions. And if elderly people are actually prosecuted, then it is almost impossible to get a conviction…nobody will go to prison.

This is how the Establishment works.

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Poster Boys & Girls 2016: #15 Dolores Kelly (SDLP)

Dolores Kelly: Upper Bann.

This poster is located outside Lurgan Ytain Station. Former SDLP. Deputy Leader and now Spokesperson on Education.

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Poster Boys & Girls 2016:#14 Catherine Seeley (Sinn Féin)

Catherine Seeley: Upper Bann.

This poster is located at William Street, Lurgan. Ms Seeley was SF candidate in Westminster 2015 and Sinn Féin talked up her chances of winning. Predictably SF lost ground on their 2011 Assembly position and actually finished third behind DUP and UUP. SF has been looking for a breakthru in Upper Bann, taking a seat at the expense of a unionist or SDLP. In 2011 they spun that nationalists could gain a seat and that Dolores Kelly was “safe”. Alternatively on other doorsteps they told voters that “Dolores is toast”.

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Removing Election Posters

Almost every day, I am seeing reports that election posters are being taken off lamp posts …stolen. To some extent, all parties are victims of this crime. It happens mostly when a Party crosses   into alien territory or puts up a poster in “shared space”.

But it has to be said that a lot of stolen SDLP and Sinn Féin posters end up on loyalist bonfires in July.

But the removal of posters…the theft of posters …is an attack on the democratic process and it can be a form of intimidation. There is possibly some evidence that some of it is just hooliganism.

Either way, we have legislation to protect the Environment. Posters can not be put up “too early”. And political parties can be fined if they leave them up too long after an Election. While most political parties factor in that posters will be stolen…there seems to be a convention that there is two harvests of posters….the early ones will be removed but a second crop will appear within a few days of an Election.

I think PSNI need to be more pro-active. The Democratic Process deserves more support. If we believe that even those who disagree with us are doing a public service by putting their names and faces forward, then their posters deserve more protection.

There is maybe another side. There is such a thing as over-doing it. Too many posters can be a very unsubtle way of marking tribal territory and effectively intimidating.

Normally, only two political parties put up posters in our small village. Last night, many residents were surprised that one Party had put up a lot of posters. The general opinion was “thats overdoing things”. The disapproval was pretty universal but also broad-based.

So this morning most have been taken down…stolen. I honestly dont think the motivation was “political”. It just made the village look tacky. Hmmmm…feel free to call us “snobs”.

But I think reasonable people would say that there should be a balance to these things. Limited number of posters, limited time to display them and their protection under the law.

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President Obama…LetsGetAlongerist

I really dont have much time for President Obama. An American President will always act in the interests of United States.

It is human nature we love to hear foreign politicans say the “right” thing about domestic matters.

For example, when President de Gaulle visited Quebec and finished a speech with the words “Vive Quebec Libre!”, pro-British Canadians were outraged.

And earlier this week when President Obama spoke out against Britain leaving the European Union, his words were welcomed by the “Remain” side and he was accused of interfering in British affairs by the “Leave” side.

Today Obama spoke about people in Norn Iron finding a common identity that is neither unionist or nationalist. WHAAAATTTT? This sounds like LetsGetAlongerism to me. I am outraged.

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2016…The Year Of Living Dangerously

So Victoria Wood yesterday. And “Prince” today. A bad year to be famous.

I can identify with Victoria Wood (62, a year younger than me). I cant identify with “Prince” (57).

To some extent Victoria Wood was the comic voice of my generation and class. She was an observer….wrote comedy, did stand-up comedy, acted comedy and (because comic acting is the hardest) was an award winning straight actress.

Yet it is all about observation on Victoria Wood’s part. ANd recognition on my part…she observed that for the first two years of her life, she lay on her back in a Silver Swan pram and all she could see was the sky and trees. And I could recognise that. She observed that she went to school before Dyslexia was “invented”  and children who found reading difficult sat at the back of the classroom with raffia paper. Tragi-Comedy and I could recognise it.

I think too much is made of her gender. Yes she observed the lives of women…much more realistically than contemporaries such as Jo Brand and Jenny Eclair. It was as much about Class….there is not a lot of difference between Bury (South Lancashire) and Belfast. So now coincidence that the best English male comedian is Peter Kay (from Bolton, South Lancashire). We have all observed…or in my case BEEN an embarrassing uncle at a wedding. “Garlic Bread!!!!”.

Of course Peter Kay is more than twenty years younger than Victoria Wood.

And Victoria Wood was really a person who benefitted from the pathfinding of  “northern” writers like Alan Bennett, comedians like Jimmy Tarbuck and musicians like the Beatles. Some northerners embraced London life more completely than others. VIctoria Wood remained true to her…and my …roots.

So …”Prince” ….or the “artist previously known as Prince. I suppose at 57, he was just about a contemporary of myself. Yet it doesnt feel that way. There is a truism that you can go into a house and tell the date of the marriage.

Not quite true in my case (married in 1982) as my record collection (with few exceptions)  stops circa 1974 with the Eagles “Greatest Hits” . It must have been the Year the Music Died. It was a short but active life. I have about 600 “45s” from the 1960s but they are buried in a cupboard. So…everything just stopped.

Actually Music did not stop. It just became visual. Video really did kill the Radio Star. If David Bowie (who was maybe a decade older than Prince) …and neither meant anything to me, they shared that same visual thing. So what really surprises me is that people of my age are on TV or social media are talking about Prince in much the same way that they talked about Bowie in January.

It seems strange. In the 1960s music was for young folks. As I reached my mid 20s, I had no need for music. This says more about me than it says about those middle aged men and women on TV and social media tonight. I am…it would appear….odd.

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Poster Boys & Girls: #13 Sophie Long (PUP)

Sophie Long: Upper Bann.

This poster is located at High Steet, Lurgan. The PUP (Progressive Unionist Party) is seen as the voice of the UVF. The irony is that PUP (previous leaders include David Ervine and Dawn Purves) sees itself as progressive and left wing and the authentic voice of disenfranchised loyalist working class people but UVF members are right wing thugs. Sophie Long is a PhD candidate at Queens University.

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